TOWN OF MELBOURNE BEACH
MINUTES
TOWN COMMISSION - WORKSHOP

THURSDAY
August 7, 2003
7:00 p.m.
COMMUNITY CENTER

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A workshop of the Town Commission of the Town of the Town of Melbourne Beach, Florida 
was called to order by Mayor Crispen at 7:03 p.m. on Thursday, August 7, 2003 in the Community 
Center. Mayor Crispen also led the Pledge of Allegiance

Present:  

Mayor Crispen
Vice Mayor  Smith
Commissioner Price
Commissioner Walters
Commissioner Wilson

Others Present:  

Town Attorney Gougelman
Town Manager Hoskovec
Chief of Police Loizzo
Fire Chief Hunter
Finance Manage Matthews
Building Official Munroe
Sergeant Siniscal
Officer Dodson
One resident
Town Clerk Masny

I.      DISCUSSION/REVIEW OF RESOLUTION NO. 702 AND AS AMENDED BY RESOLUTION NO. 708
        Mayor Crispen opened the meeting and stated that Commissioner Walters had wanted this agenda item 
        and asked that he proceed.  Commissioner Walters stated that he was dissatisfied with the incidents that 
        took place at the last meeting held on July 29th  and he hoped the Town Commission could come to an 
        agreement to follow Resolution No. 702 and when there is a conflict, Roberts Rules of Order.  Commissioner 
        Walters reviewed the events of the July 29th meeting noting how many times the Town Commission was 
        interrupted during the meeting, contrary to the rules.

        The Town Commission discussed the events of the meeting and how they each felt about how the Commission 
        handled themselves and the public during the meeting.  Members of the Town Commission  were concerned that 
        they were interrupted during the meeting by either another member of the Commission, a member of the public, 
        or a member of the Town staff and discussed how to handle such situations in the future.  

        Town Attorney Gougelman and the Town Commission discussed parts of Roberts Rules of Order and Town 
        Attorney Gougelman commented that there is a meeting that can be run strictly by the rules or a meeting 
        that is a more laid back process where the rules are employed where needed.  Town Attorney Gougelman 
        commented that the problem with most Boards that he has seen is where a body tries to live by the rules 
        and is so consumed in following proper process, they get nothing done.  Town Attorney Gougelman commented 
        that he recommends a more relaxed approach in running meetings. 
 
        Town Attorney Gougelman stated that when a “Point of Order” is called at a meeting, that person is 
        recognized, the Chair makes a ruling on whether or not that “Point of Order” is properly taken or not 
        properly taken and what the basis for the ruling is; and, if someone wants to disagree, they have the 
        right at that point (and it has to relate to the rules of procedure because a “Point of Order” deals with 
        procedure), to appeal the Chair’s determination to the full body and it is up to the full body to vote 
        against the determination.  Town Attorney Gougelman pointed out that when the “point” is not well 
        taken, the Chair should state the basis for the ruling.  

        Mayor Crispen called for a recess at 6:58 p.m. and called the workshop back to order at 7:07 p.m.

II.     CONTINUED REVIEW OF PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR 2003/2004 MUNICIPALBUDGET
        Town Manager Hoskovec recommended to the Town Commission that the Town expend the budget at 
        95% of ad valorem taxes, which will bring in an additional $42,473  in revenue over the previous version 
        of the budget presented on July 31, 2003.

        The Town Manager and Town Commission began review of each budget category of the proposed Fiscal 
        Year 2003/2004 budget.  

        It was suggested to revise the budget to footnote the reasoning for the budgeted amount of $100,000 in fines 
        and forfeitures and expand the Town Manager’s budget message to address this line-item footnote.  It was 
        noted that a new depreciation item has been included under miscellaneous income, and the Town Clerk 
        position has been moved from the Executive to the Legislative portion of the budget this year.    

        There was a lengthy discussion regarding justification of the Finance Clerk position and it was the consensus 
        of the majority of the Town Commission to retain the Finance Clerk position in the budget.

        It was noted that there needs to be a footnote under the General Services budget as to why it shows  zero 
        balances in each line item.  

        Chief Loizzo was present and reviewed the Law Enforcement budget with the Town Commission.  

        Fire Chief Hunter was present and reviewed the Fire Control budget and suggested that the saving fund to 
        be used toward the purchase of a new fire truck should be $100,000 rather than $80,000.  After a discussion 
        about the purchase of a new fire truck, it is suggested that the fire department go out for three (3) bids for a 
        new fire truck and look into the annual funding amounts needed and bring these back at the next budget workshop.

        Town Manager Hoskovec addressed the Town Commission regarding the salary survey results and recommended 
        that seven (7) positions be adjusted 3% to the step plan. After a presentation by Sergeant Siniscal and Officer 
        Dodson regarding salary plans for the police department employees,  Town Manager Hoskovec requested that 
        the Chief of Police contact all police departments in Brevard County and request a copy of their step plans, to 
        include insurance plans, prior to the next budget workshop.

        It is the consensus of the Town Commission that there be an additional workshop scheduled to review the 
        proposed budget on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 beginning at 6:00 p.m. 

The workshop adjourned at 10:38 p.m.

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MARK J. CRISPEN, MAYOR




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CYNTHIA E. MASNY, CMC
TOWN CLERK

 Note:  a mechanical recording has been made of the foregoing procedures of which these minutes are a 
           part and is on file in the office of the Town Clerk.

PURSUANT TO SECTION 286.0105, FLORIDA STATUTES, THE TOWN HEREBY 
ADVISES THE PUBLIC THAT: If a person decides to appeal any decision made by the 
Town Commission with respect to any matter considered at its meeting, he will need a 
record of the proceedings and that for such purpose, affected persons may need to insure 
that a verbatim record of the proceedings is made, which record includes the testimony 
and evidence upon which the appeal is to be based.  This notice does not constitute 
consent by the Town for the introduction or admission into evidence of otherwise 
inadmissible or irrelevant evidence, nor does it authorize challenges or appeals not 
otherwise allowed by law.